dennis kneale is outside game stop with how this could impact businesses, dennis? >> hey, cheryl, and we have a guest we're going to be interviewing with the international game developers association involved in the meeting at 2:15 p.m. eastern in the white house today with vice president biden. daniel greenberg is with us, and video games, daniel, have been basically under attack since the connecticut shootings. i mean, the nra, itself, took off after hollywood and violent video games, and then obama adviser david axelrod after the shootings tweeted that sure, ban weapons of war, but, sure, quit marketing murder as a game. daniel greenberg, is what that the video game industry does? does it market murder as a game? >> no, not at all, dennis. i have to clear up one thing. the international game developers association is not participating in the meeting with the haven't. the publishers association, i believe, is there. we accepted your interview, of course, to speak to the issue today. no, violent video games do not produce real world violent. that's never been prov